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[nowhere man]

Now I'm going to assume everyone reading this knows the truth about santa claus. So hear is the question up for debate. Does it make sence to allow your children to beleive in santa claus, or even encouragr the beleif, when you know they are going to eventualy find out it is not true and perhaps be heartbroken by the news.
It makes no sence to me to lie to a child like that, it even seems mean.
What do you think?

[nil]

We live in a world of lies, which is not as bad as it sounds. Most of the lies we see are harmless or almost harmless. For example: all coloring in food are lies. They have 0 nutrition values and its only function is to deceive the consumers to mistaken it as something it isn't (which match the definition of lie). But we are happy to see those colors because we would lose our appetizer if we see the original color of those artificial food.

I think it's dangerous to let your child live in an artificial lieless world. It's like keeping your child in a germ-less world which will severely weakening their immune system.

I think it's more important to train the child to detect lies and truth instead of lying to them that we live in a world without lies. Only when we learn how to detect lies, can we really trust people.

[Insanity test]

Santa Claus/Father Christmas is a 'lie to children'. They don't yet understand the concept of money or of giving when you don't have to. So we tell them a story of a nice fat man in a red suit squeezing down the chimney (kids love crazy stories) and depositing lots of toys.

If every kid knew it was their parents getting them the presents before they understood self-sacrifice they could become very difficult to deal with just before christmas. Father Christmas is therefore a scapegoat for parents who are unable to deliver what their children want. Which isn't that bad considering some kids want spaceships for christmas.

[hamster]

I think Santa Claus is fine for the little ones -- think how much excitement they get out of the whole thing -- sitting on his lap, putting out cookies, opening presents from him. Would you take all that away?

But when they begin to ask questions, that's the time, instead of attempting to force them to continue to believe, simply to say, "Well, you've enjoyed it but you're growing up now and here's the truth."

I don't remember melting into a pool of disillusionment and misery and suffering lifelong emotional scars when I asked the question and got the answer.

[nowhere man]

I don't think you would be taking anything away from kids when you don't lie to them about santa claus. They can still get excited about christmas, they still open presents, theres the anticipation, and does it mean nothing when it comes from their parents? I think it should mean more.

[hamster]

I don't think you would be taking anything away from kids when you don't lie to them about santa claus. They can still get excited about christmas, they still open presents, theres the anticipation, and does it mean nothing when it comes from their parents? I think it should mean more.

I sentence you to watch Miracle on 34th Street this weekend, with no butter for your popcorn.

[nowhere man]

I have seen Miricle On 34th street. It is a good movie, but in that movie Santa actualy exists, If santa actualy existed of course you should tell your kids that he did. But since he dosn't, I don't think you should

[hamster]

Can you prove that Santa doesn't exist?

I have seen Miricle On 34th street. It is a good movie, but in that movie Santa actualy exists, If santa actualy existed of course you should tell your kids that he did. But since he dosn't, I don't think you should

[nowhere man]

I can prove that santa does not bring presents to my little cousins, or any children I know for that matter.

[Pimienta]

I think he may have existed and stories were told about him and as the years passed, the stories grew and grew and now we have a big fat guy with nine reindeer and a ton of little elves living at the north pole

I also believe that children should at some point in their life have it explained but why should we crush the magic of it all

[hamster]

No, you can't. It is logically impossible to prove a negative.

I can prove that santa does not bring presents to my little cousins, or any children I know for that matter.

[Pimienta]

yes you can prove negatives

there is a quote in our science room that says something about it and it make total sense but I can't remember the exact quote or who said it so until I have it,you will just have to trust that it was a ver;y; intelligent and logical person

[nowhere man]

No, you can't. It is logically impossible to prove a negative.

I can prove that santa does not bring presents to my little cousins, or any children I know for that matter.

Wait, explain that. Why couldn't I prove that santa clause dosn't give presents to my cousins? All I would have to do is ask my aunt, if her answer isn't enough, all I would have to do is ask my aunt if her kids recieved any presents she dosn't remember buying. right?

[Insanity test]

Just as a matter of random barely related interest, did you know that Rudolf should have been Rudelphia, ie. a female?

Male Reindeer shed their Antlers over winter, so if they have antlers, they must be female.

Interesting, eh?

Anyway, sorry, .

Carry on!

[nil]

Those aren't antlers, those are antennas for instant messaging. Santa gets an instant message when you do good or bad thing.