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[Bomadeno]

'Smoking should be completely banned'

I truthfully agree with this. Do you?

[Math_nerd]

I think that if people want to kill themselves smoking, they can go ahead and do so. In Oregon you can't smoke in work buildings, some appartments ect. Mostly people smoke in bars and outside. I think that this is fine.

[Bomadeno]

Tub what if you want to go in the bars? Or in the places they are in outside?

[nowhere man]

I think that if people want to kill themselves smoking, they can go ahead and do so. In Oregon you can't smoke in work buildings, some appartments ect. Mostly people smoke in bars and outside. I think that this is fine.

correct you are. If you want to go in a bar then understand that people may be smoking in there. If it bothers you that much then dont go in.

[trumpetprodigy]

I think that smoking is bad for you, but some people are addicted. Banning it will cause people to smoke illeagally, like when they banned alchohol. And, I think that the government should not run people's lives for them. If they want to smoke, even though it is not healthy, they should be allowed to.

[Pimienta]

it's not just dangerous to the smokers health, its dangerous to people around thems health

my sister smokes
it is harmful to my neices' health and when she comes around me her breath is enough to kill me
I do not like that she is smoking around my neices

[Math_nerd]

But at that point she is smoking in the house of children and not outside where she should be smoking if she is going to.

[nowhere man]

If you smoke, you should dod it respnnsibly....

[Nobody]

The evidence supporting second hand smoke as being harmful is weak, at best. Until someone can come up with some conclusive evidence that shows second hand smoke as being anything more than annoying and or disgusting, smokers should not have to smoke outside.

[Pimienta]

well I am going to tell you that my nieces are sick more often than a normal person and I personally blame it on second hand smoke and until my sister proves me wrong by smoking outside and them still getting sick so often I will continue to believe that it is caused by second hand smoke

[nowhere man]

my mother smokes, although it is annoying and disgusting..i dont find it harmfull to myself...but im no scientist

[trumpetprodigy]

My dad use to smoke for like 45 years (I'm not exactly sure), and a lot a day. I don't think I was sicker than normal, infact I was (and still am) quite healthy. My dad did quit a while ago, and it seems that he has had no major health problems from it.

[princess]

I smoke. I know it is bad, and will quit soon, which is easier than a lot of people make out. I don't think it should be banned, we have the right to do harmful things if we want to, and occassionally cigarettes can be used in decent ways, eg someone is really freaking out, and although they don't ususally smoke they have a cigarette to calm them down, and don't get all worked up.
I try to be as responsible as i can with my smoking, i don't smoke around non-smokers, i always throw my butts in the bin, and try not to do it too much [but i still do ] I certainly would never let my second hand smoke get on childrens or smoke if i was pregnant.

Never the less, im really fed up with and trying to decide exactly when to quit. Must choose the right time or else you fail.

[Nobody]

"Although I do not smoke...I do think bullying someone who is in a restaurant or community establishment is JUST as messed up. Just because you don't like what someone is doing with their body does not give you the right to force a particular 'will' on them. Now I am all for clean air laws (when they apply), but I think they take a back seat when it comes to civil liberties." -Penn of Penn & Teller


The EPA created a 1992 report to the FDA saying that second hand smoke kills 3,000 people a year . Unfortunatly, the EPA could not produce physical evidence of this report to the FDA and since they act independantly of the FDA (meaning the FDA is not their boss)...they chose to use these statistics anyway. Now the EPA has a 'new' figure, (53,000 people) which they have used as their tagline to ban and abolish smoking. Unfortunatly this figure comes from a 'projected' estimation of how many people die each year from second hand smoke. These statistics came from...yes...you guessed it...the 1992 reports that the FDA found to be false.

Thankfully (or not), the FDA decided in 2002 to compile a study of the effects of second hand smoke (which started the same year (1992) that the EPA submitted their reports) and they found that 1 in 12,500,000 people in the US will die from second hand smoke each year at the most.

To put it in perspective...1 in 12.5 million americans will die each year from second hand smoke. Also 1 in 10 million americans die each year from being struck my lightening...get the picture?

See...so i'm not saying that second hand smoke doesn't kill...it just doesn't kill as much as the EPA (Truth, Choice, and all other anti-smoking campaigns) would like you to believe.

[princess]

yeah, i get really annoyed when people tell me not to smoke....do they think iv been living under a rock and have missed out on all the info on why it is bad?
Or that i'll stop because they told me to? I think they'r just wanting to show off their own morality by discouraging smoking, but when they do that they'r failing miserably.